There are 'Dumb Ways to Die' and dumb ways to invest. Topping the list are HYIPs which are simply Ponzi schemes waiting to fall apart. Taking their chances are a new breed of investors flocking to social HYIP websites.
Dumb ways to die, and dumber ways to invest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJNR2EpS0jw
Too good to be true!
We’ve reported about our share of forex related HYIPs. High yield investment programs (HYIP) are Ponzi schemes promising insanely high returns, typically over 1% a day, with it not being uncommon to see 3-5% daily returns, and even others going even crazier and stating 100+% daily returns. Initial investments and profits are paid back by deposits from new investors. Schemes include low minimum deposit amounts with more attractive returns for larger accounts. The fraud keeps taking place as long as new investors are found to deposit fresh funds into the program.
In the world of HYIPs, forex related programs are one of the many different financial related investments being offered. Other programs revolve around real estate investment in emerging markets, loans, financial services, and stock trading schemes. While websites will market the HYIPs as being managed by seasoned professionals or investing in hot products, this is no more than a scam to solicit new clients.
Crowd Sourced Russian Roulette
Although the returns are ‘too good to be true’ and many sites are being closed down by their ISPs, (we wrote about Pro Forex Union which has since closed down, also AltusHost has recently blocked a number of sites recently such as https://www.forex-trendz.com), the appeal of quick profits goes a long way in attracting customers. Meeting this demand are a number of HYIP review websites and forums. What can be described as ‘crowd sourced’ HYIP investing, these sites provide users the chance to comment and rate different programs to determine which ones are still paying out. Like a game of musical chairs, investors are looking for programs that they can enter and exit quickly before the Ponzi scheme folds.
Among the sites, one of the interesting ones is HYIPexplorer. In order to monitor different programs, HYIPexploer claims to be a depositor in the Ponzi schemes and updates readers of whether various funds are paying out or not. The site rates the ROI of their investment, WHOIS details of the HYIP website, and reader reviews. Like a game of Russian roulette, HYIPexploer admits that HYIPs don’t survive very long, but “taking both the negative and positive aspects of High Yield Investments into consideration, the conclusion is; if done right, High Yield Investments can be extremely lucrative”. However, anyway you look at it, HYIPs are Ponzi schemes, and someone is going to lose their money, and probably a lot of it. So while investors may get lucky a few times, they are still playing against scammers out to defraud their customers. It’s probably also true that the majority of any HYIP review website are simply affiliates of the many programs and it is in their best interest to generate additional deposits to the so called ‘Platinum’ schemes that are still paying out.
Liberty Reserve falls, Perfect Money rises
One of the common denominators among HYIPs is that they were nearly all accepting Liberty Reserve at time the payment system was closed down and many firms still have the LR logo on display on their sites. The virtual currency system provided an anonymous payment solution without chargeback risk. The inclusion of Liberty Reserve as the payment gateway of choice for scammers fits into an answer a payment solution provider gave to Forex Magnates last month when asked how to evaluate the plethora of payment companies by saying “you can tell a lot about the trustworthiness of a company by who their clients are. If they are a solution for risky businesses, than they probably are too.”
With Liberty Reserve being seized by US authorities, it provided a smoke screen for various HYIP providers and other dodgy financial services who were able to claim to customers that they couldn’t return funds as their accounts were closed. As a result, HYIP investors aren’t only at risk of a Ponzi risk blowing up, but of their payment account closing down as well.
As Liberty Reserve has left the scene, the gap has been filled by smaller competitors. Among the smaller players taking a more active role is Perfect Money. Similar to Liberty Reserve, Panamanian Perfect Money offers e-currency accounts that can be denominated in dollars, euros, or gold. The payment system also revolves around 3rd party exchangers that can be used to fund accounts. After funding, users can freely transfer e-currencies to other account holders with only a 0.5% fee. The low internal transfer fees are a main appeal of Perfect Money as well as other e-currencies.
With its feet planted in the world of fraudulent online businesses, Perfect Money has recently been making changes that on the surface appear to make it less vulnerable to meet the same fate at Liberty Reserve. This includes the termination of US based accounts as well as changing their Top Level Domain (TLD) name from .Com to .Is. The actions place Perfect Money farther away from US jurisdiction and the potential of being shut down or having their website confiscated. In any event, as a Liberty Reserve clone, there is little assurance that Perfect Money isn’t already being investigated by multiple governments, with account holders at risk of losing their funds.
Similarly, Tim Thompson, CEO of NOIREpay mentioned anti money laundering (AML) issues. When asked about firms like Perfect Money and whether they will be closed down, Thompson stated “It's the business model that's the issue. Anything that allows you to set up an account fast and easy with just an email and then transfer money will be open to abuse.” He added “Thresholds for AML usual kick in about $8k. So it becomes how many emails you have! You could have 1000 emails, transfer $2000 with each and slip below AML checks. Why else would someone use these anonymous methods?” Thompson concluded by saying “Of course there will be a lot of people who are genuine and not criminals. But criminals have an easy tool to use. It’s totally anonymous.”
Bottom Line
Coming back to the world of HYIPs. The bottom line is that HYIPs are fraudulent programs created to scam clients. In addition to the obvious Ponzi scheme taking place where the majority of investors and money will lose their money, there are additional risks that are growing. These include potential banning of HYIP sites by ISPs, closure of funding options such as another Liberty Reserve scandal, as well as the ‘pimping’ of the HYIP ‘winners’ by affiliate websites. Overall, HYIPs are a fool’s game and one that investors should be aware of their risks before even thinking of opening an account in.
Dumb ways to die, and dumber ways to invest
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJNR2EpS0jw
Too good to be true!
We’ve reported about our share of forex related HYIPs. High yield investment programs (HYIP) are Ponzi schemes promising insanely high returns, typically over 1% a day, with it not being uncommon to see 3-5% daily returns, and even others going even crazier and stating 100+% daily returns. Initial investments and profits are paid back by deposits from new investors. Schemes include low minimum deposit amounts with more attractive returns for larger accounts. The fraud keeps taking place as long as new investors are found to deposit fresh funds into the program.
In the world of HYIPs, forex related programs are one of the many different financial related investments being offered. Other programs revolve around real estate investment in emerging markets, loans, financial services, and stock trading schemes. While websites will market the HYIPs as being managed by seasoned professionals or investing in hot products, this is no more than a scam to solicit new clients.
Crowd Sourced Russian Roulette
Although the returns are ‘too good to be true’ and many sites are being closed down by their ISPs, (we wrote about Pro Forex Union which has since closed down, also AltusHost has recently blocked a number of sites recently such as https://www.forex-trendz.com), the appeal of quick profits goes a long way in attracting customers. Meeting this demand are a number of HYIP review websites and forums. What can be described as ‘crowd sourced’ HYIP investing, these sites provide users the chance to comment and rate different programs to determine which ones are still paying out. Like a game of musical chairs, investors are looking for programs that they can enter and exit quickly before the Ponzi scheme folds.
Among the sites, one of the interesting ones is HYIPexplorer. In order to monitor different programs, HYIPexploer claims to be a depositor in the Ponzi schemes and updates readers of whether various funds are paying out or not. The site rates the ROI of their investment, WHOIS details of the HYIP website, and reader reviews. Like a game of Russian roulette, HYIPexploer admits that HYIPs don’t survive very long, but “taking both the negative and positive aspects of High Yield Investments into consideration, the conclusion is; if done right, High Yield Investments can be extremely lucrative”. However, anyway you look at it, HYIPs are Ponzi schemes, and someone is going to lose their money, and probably a lot of it. So while investors may get lucky a few times, they are still playing against scammers out to defraud their customers. It’s probably also true that the majority of any HYIP review website are simply affiliates of the many programs and it is in their best interest to generate additional deposits to the so called ‘Platinum’ schemes that are still paying out.
Liberty Reserve falls, Perfect Money rises
One of the common denominators among HYIPs is that they were nearly all accepting Liberty Reserve at time the payment system was closed down and many firms still have the LR logo on display on their sites. The virtual currency system provided an anonymous payment solution without chargeback risk. The inclusion of Liberty Reserve as the payment gateway of choice for scammers fits into an answer a payment solution provider gave to Forex Magnates last month when asked how to evaluate the plethora of payment companies by saying “you can tell a lot about the trustworthiness of a company by who their clients are. If they are a solution for risky businesses, than they probably are too.”
With Liberty Reserve being seized by US authorities, it provided a smoke screen for various HYIP providers and other dodgy financial services who were able to claim to customers that they couldn’t return funds as their accounts were closed. As a result, HYIP investors aren’t only at risk of a Ponzi risk blowing up, but of their payment account closing down as well.
As Liberty Reserve has left the scene, the gap has been filled by smaller competitors. Among the smaller players taking a more active role is Perfect Money. Similar to Liberty Reserve, Panamanian Perfect Money offers e-currency accounts that can be denominated in dollars, euros, or gold. The payment system also revolves around 3rd party exchangers that can be used to fund accounts. After funding, users can freely transfer e-currencies to other account holders with only a 0.5% fee. The low internal transfer fees are a main appeal of Perfect Money as well as other e-currencies.
With its feet planted in the world of fraudulent online businesses, Perfect Money has recently been making changes that on the surface appear to make it less vulnerable to meet the same fate at Liberty Reserve. This includes the termination of US based accounts as well as changing their Top Level Domain (TLD) name from .Com to .Is. The actions place Perfect Money farther away from US jurisdiction and the potential of being shut down or having their website confiscated. In any event, as a Liberty Reserve clone, there is little assurance that Perfect Money isn’t already being investigated by multiple governments, with account holders at risk of losing their funds.
Similarly, Tim Thompson, CEO of NOIREpay mentioned anti money laundering (AML) issues. When asked about firms like Perfect Money and whether they will be closed down, Thompson stated “It's the business model that's the issue. Anything that allows you to set up an account fast and easy with just an email and then transfer money will be open to abuse.” He added “Thresholds for AML usual kick in about $8k. So it becomes how many emails you have! You could have 1000 emails, transfer $2000 with each and slip below AML checks. Why else would someone use these anonymous methods?” Thompson concluded by saying “Of course there will be a lot of people who are genuine and not criminals. But criminals have an easy tool to use. It’s totally anonymous.”
Bottom Line
Coming back to the world of HYIPs. The bottom line is that HYIPs are fraudulent programs created to scam clients. In addition to the obvious Ponzi scheme taking place where the majority of investors and money will lose their money, there are additional risks that are growing. These include potential banning of HYIP sites by ISPs, closure of funding options such as another Liberty Reserve scandal, as well as the ‘pimping’ of the HYIP ‘winners’ by affiliate websites. Overall, HYIPs are a fool’s game and one that investors should be aware of their risks before even thinking of opening an account in.
FM's Editor-in-Chief Yam Yehoshua on how the newsroom evaluates stories.
FM's Editor-in-Chief Yam Yehoshua on how the newsroom evaluates stories.
FM's Editor-in-Chief Yam Yehoshua on how the newsroom evaluates stories.
FM's Editor-in-Chief Yam Yehoshua on how the newsroom evaluates stories.
FM's Editor-in-Chief Yam Yehoshua on how the newsroom evaluates stories.
FM's Editor-in-Chief Yam Yehoshua on how the newsroom evaluates stories.
FM's Editor-in-Chief Yam Yehoshua on how the newsroom evaluates stories.
FM's Editor-in-Chief Yam Yehoshua on how the newsroom evaluates stories.
FM's Editor-in-Chief Yam Yehoshua on how the newsroom evaluates stories.
FM's Editor-in-Chief Yam Yehoshua on how the newsroom evaluates stories.
FM's Editor-in-Chief Yam Yehoshua on how the newsroom evaluates stories.
FM's Editor-in-Chief Yam Yehoshua on how the newsroom evaluates stories.
Matthew Smith, Group CEO at EC Markets, speaking at FMLS:24
Matthew Smith, Group CEO at EC Markets, speaking at FMLS:24
Matthew Smith, Group CEO at EC Markets, speaking at FMLS:24
Matthew Smith, Group CEO at EC Markets, speaking at FMLS:24
Matthew Smith, Group CEO at EC Markets, speaking at FMLS:24
Matthew Smith, Group CEO at EC Markets, speaking at FMLS:24
Matthew Smith, Group CEO at EC Markets, speaking at FMLS:24
Matthew Smith, Group CEO at EC Markets, speaking at FMLS:24
Matthew Smith, Group CEO at EC Markets, speaking at FMLS:24
Matthew Smith, Group CEO at EC Markets, speaking at FMLS:24
Matthew Smith, Group CEO at EC Markets, speaking at FMLS:24
Matthew Smith, Group CEO at EC Markets, speaking at FMLS:24
Finance Magnates Annual Awards 2024 | FM Awards 2024 Highlights
Finance Magnates Annual Awards 2024 | FM Awards 2024 Highlights
Finance Magnates Annual Awards 2024 | FM Awards 2024 Highlights
Finance Magnates Annual Awards 2024 | FM Awards 2024 Highlights
Finance Magnates Annual Awards 2024 | FM Awards 2024 Highlights
Finance Magnates Annual Awards 2024 | FM Awards 2024 Highlights
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🎥Catch the best moments from the Finance Magnates Annual Awards Gala Dinner!
An evening where top names in finance came together to celebrate achievements, enjoy live music, and connect over a memorable dinner. Watch the highlights and feel the energy of our first gala in Cyprus!
Congratulations to all the winners for their dedication to excellence and leadership in the financial industry, including XM, Trading PRO, FP Markets, Deriv, FxPro, LATAM, Headway, ATFX, FBS, AMEGA, EC Markets, Axi
For more information about the 1st Finance Magnates Annual Awards, visit https://bit.ly/3Zb7wNz
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🎥Catch the best moments from the Finance Magnates Annual Awards Gala Dinner!
An evening where top names in finance came together to celebrate achievements, enjoy live music, and connect over a memorable dinner. Watch the highlights and feel the energy of our first gala in Cyprus!
Congratulations to all the winners for their dedication to excellence and leadership in the financial industry, including XM, Trading PRO, FP Markets, Deriv, FxPro, LATAM, Headway, ATFX, FBS, AMEGA, EC Markets, Axi
For more information about the 1st Finance Magnates Annual Awards, visit https://bit.ly/3Zb7wNz
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🎥Catch the best moments from the Finance Magnates Annual Awards Gala Dinner!
An evening where top names in finance came together to celebrate achievements, enjoy live music, and connect over a memorable dinner. Watch the highlights and feel the energy of our first gala in Cyprus!
Congratulations to all the winners for their dedication to excellence and leadership in the financial industry, including XM, Trading PRO, FP Markets, Deriv, FxPro, LATAM, Headway, ATFX, FBS, AMEGA, EC Markets, Axi
For more information about the 1st Finance Magnates Annual Awards, visit https://bit.ly/3Zb7wNz
#FinanceMagnatesGala #IndustryExcellence #GalaHighlights #FinanceMagnatesAnnualAwards #FinanceMagnatesAwards #CelebratingSuccess #FinanceCommunity
🎥Catch the best moments from the Finance Magnates Annual Awards Gala Dinner!
An evening where top names in finance came together to celebrate achievements, enjoy live music, and connect over a memorable dinner. Watch the highlights and feel the energy of our first gala in Cyprus!
Congratulations to all the winners for their dedication to excellence and leadership in the financial industry, including XM, Trading PRO, FP Markets, Deriv, FxPro, LATAM, Headway, ATFX, FBS, AMEGA, EC Markets, Axi
For more information about the 1st Finance Magnates Annual Awards, visit https://bit.ly/3Zb7wNz
#FinanceMagnatesGala #IndustryExcellence #GalaHighlights #FinanceMagnatesAnnualAwards #FinanceMagnatesAwards #CelebratingSuccess #FinanceCommunity
🎥Catch the best moments from the Finance Magnates Annual Awards Gala Dinner!
An evening where top names in finance came together to celebrate achievements, enjoy live music, and connect over a memorable dinner. Watch the highlights and feel the energy of our first gala in Cyprus!
Congratulations to all the winners for their dedication to excellence and leadership in the financial industry, including XM, Trading PRO, FP Markets, Deriv, FxPro, LATAM, Headway, ATFX, FBS, AMEGA, EC Markets, Axi
For more information about the 1st Finance Magnates Annual Awards, visit https://bit.ly/3Zb7wNz
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FMLS:24 | Shaping the Next Era of Financial Evolution
FMLS:24 | Shaping the Next Era of Financial Evolution
FMLS:24 | Shaping the Next Era of Financial Evolution
FMLS:24 | Shaping the Next Era of Financial Evolution
FMLS:24 | Shaping the Next Era of Financial Evolution
FMLS:24 | Shaping the Next Era of Financial Evolution
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